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";s:4:"text";s:26527:"Why do Irish have black hair and blue eyes? The Pictish frontier returned to the River Forth near Edinburgh and the Bishop of Abercorn fled, never to return. Hi BigBlue, yes I was aware of the kingdoms, but not the fact they called themselves english. With the Armoricans severely weakened, the Franks invaded Gaul in force and took Paris from its last Roman commander in 486. You are right that all Europeans, indeed all humans, first came out in waves of migration from Africa. BY J. O. HALLIWELL, ESQ. 2020's Remembering the Armada Weekend takes place from 18th to 20th of September. I had my DNA tested and was told my female line came from Doggerland which is a land between England and Holland, now under water. I am working on my family genealogy and DNA testing family members. As part of the United Kingdom, Northern Ireland was at war, but the independent state of Ireland was neutral. And, of course Scotland is the land of the Scotii. They were met with severe resistance and clashed with the English at the Battle of Gravelines … It was not until later when kingdoms became more unified that the name England appears. More interestingly, there was a tradition among the Gaels, Ireland’s original inhabitants, that they had originally migrated from Spain. The Spanish Armada … ; and I heard that from an Arthurian scholar who lives in Tintangel in Cornwall. Further south along the Channel and the North Sea, the Romans built forts along what they called the "Saxon Shore". The Franks left their name on the new nation, but not the language the spoke. The English navy inflicted a narrow defeat on the Armada, but it was the Irish coast that encompassed its downfall. Of course the Danish Vikings were also referred to as Black, because they wore black metal chain armor. My maternal grandmother was a Chapman. Aside from some spectacular castles, beautiful abbeys and impressive ports, they renamed several places: the main London-York road became Ermine Street (after the emblem of Brittany), as did a major road in the West Country; the Granta River became the Cam (Breton for Meandering), and the Barwell in Leicestershire became the Tweed (like Welsh "Twyd", meaning family, kin, clan or people). The area between the Firth of Forth in what is now Scotland and the River Humber to the south was called variously Northumberland, the land north of the Humber, but before that it was Deira which ran from the Humber to the River Tees and then the area to the north up to the Firth of Forth was called Bernicia. The Romans captured the local hill before the Huns could, and Aetius the Roman general who blamed the Alans for not all dying before letting the Huns reach Orleans placed the Alans front centre in the hope that the Huns would annihilate them. After Gravelines the commanders of the Armada held a conference on Sidonia's flagship. In Galicia, northern Spain, there is a big statue of King Breogan, a Spanish Celtic king who was apparently the first Gaelic settler of Ireland, and after him came the milesians, leaded by his son. HI I'M From Gulf I was surprised me origin Irish test DNA Love realize Genuine. If the decendents(sp) really are Spanish in origin, why is there no similarity between the Gaelic language and Spanish. Iberia also had coastal areas in which Phoenicians, Carthaginians, and Greeks settled. … I personally find it annoying that these days, whenever anyone mentions Celtic culture they almost always mention Ireland only, forgetting about the many other Celtic cultures that existed in Europe, especially the Spanish one since Gaelics came from there in the first place. I wonder how many other names use to have an O' in front of them and be of Irish lineage?! Maternal North African DNA is also prominent in the Iberian Peninsula, and much less so further north to where it barely registers in Britain and Ireland. And the referred to the people of all the islands as the Britains. Gaelic-Galicia. As stated in my earlier comment here, I visited Northern Spain recently and saw at least 3 doubles. Galicia was the homeland of Count Theodosius and his son the Emperor Theodosius. Éire (Irish: [ˈeː?ʲ?] I've also visited Galicia some time ago. Scotland would soon fall. Each village and its parish was a township. I just found out through a DNA test I am almost a third Irish. If you find an interest it that, then the regimental associations could be a source of information on the ethnic make-up of the women and children of the regiments. So I personally think that Marie has a valid point in her original article. He does consider himself Welsh, though he never learned to speak it growing up near Swansea. At the same time, DNA testing of remains of ancient Irish people suggests that some of the earliest human arrivals on the island originally came from much further afield. Politically, the effect was monumental. Linda Robinson from Cicero, New York on May 27, 2016: Hello Marie and good morning, wow such a thorough fascinating hub about the Irish, it peaked my interest because I am half Irish on my mothers side. The Spanish Armada in Ireland refers to the landfall made upon the coast of Ireland in September 1588 of a large portion of the 130-strong fleet sent by Philip II to invade England. In the morning, the western allies were ready to storm Attila's camp and knowing this he prepared a bonfire in which to commit suicide. Geneticists seem to find it difficult to distinguish between Scots (especially in the West) and Irish. In the 1801 census some 80% of the population lived in the countryside while the remaining 20% lived in what towns and cities there were. ... and return to Spain by rounding Scotland and Ireland. This article is based on the research available in early 2018 - however new discoveries are being published regularly so if you want to keep up-to-date on this topic make sure you check online scientific journals such as Nature. Ireland’s Wars: The Spanish Armada. It's believed that the Celtic culture started to evolve as early as 1200 B.C. I want to visit there one day, I am learning as much as I can to pass it down to my children and grandchildren. In other words some of those who migrated to Iceland were either native Irish or may have had one parent who was Irish. More interestingly, there was a tradition among the Gaels, Ireland’s original inhabitants, that they had originally migrated from Spain. Anyway, again thanks for the hub. I am excited to learn all I can about my dads heritage. My maiden name is McKown (with spelling variants of McKeown, McKowen, McEwen, etc.). Just received the results of DNA testing. ON THE SPANISH ARMADA. Spain's Dunkirk Privateers raided English and Dutch ships. A wonderful example of a Fede ring was recovered from the wreck of the Girona, a ship of the Spanish Armada which sank off the Antrim coast in 1588. We wereboth born to Scottishparents inPerth Scotland. Found insideBut where did the occupants of the island themselves come from and what do we even mean by “Irish” in the first place? This is the first major attempt to deal with the core issues of how the Irish came into being. So, former Ireland rugby internationals Michael Bradley and Tony Ward (who I was once mistaken for) have dark hair and eyes, and the olive complexion. I've also heard that the Phoenicians carried on a trade between what is today Ireland and Canaan or what is today Lebanon, which is why there are many redheads in Israel and Lebanon and may be the why there are more swarthy complexions in Ireland. The young King of France was deposed by his own court and also fled to England. From 1556 until his death in 1598, Philip II of Spain ruled the first global empire in history. This book investigates the strengths and weaknesses of Philip's rule, and the external factors that affected the achievement of his goals. None of these people had any relationship with the others of the same name. 4,569. The Girona Fede Ring. So yes the did exist in the 5th century but England did not. Sunardi from Indonesia on December 06, 2015: This hub makes me curious about Ireland, wanna explore the history and the literature books. This suggests that many people living in Ireland today have genetic links to people who were living on the island at least 4,000 years ago. My family has always talked about 'Black-Irish'. The definition of black Irish is used to describe Irish people with dark hair and dark eyes thought to be decedents of the Spanish Armada of the mid-1500s, or it is a term used in the United States by mixed-race descendants of Europeans and African Americans or Native Americans to hide their heritage. The Japanese warriors decided to ride out each in turn ahead of their army and announce who the were and their ancestry. His dad was Irish, born in napa. The Center for Irish Studies at the University of St. Thomas in St. Paul Minnesota was founded in 1996 to advance teaching and scholarship in Irish Studies for students, faculty and friends of the university through publications, instruction and public programs; to enrich the international dimensions of education at St. Thomas; and to affirm the many historic and contemporary bonds between the university, Ireland and the Irish-American community. I agree - if someone ever spent the time and money to investigate it we'd most probably all trace back to the same African woman about a zillion years ago. So, if taking into account that an admixture of more ancient people with newcomers during the late Neolithic and Bronze Ages accounted for Basques and Irish to have similar DNA, it does not make the Basques "Celts." But in this case England is the Land of the Engels. We know that Norwegians from Ireland would sometimes be part of an a raiding party or even an army such as that defeated by Athelstan. Britain remained Protestant and by default, Ireland remained under … Hope that helps clear things up for you Joseph. It is estimated that some 6,000 members of the fleet perished in Ireland or off its coasts. Thanks for the thought. Mom's father is an Owens (J2a3-L26). The people he calls Celts may have arrived some 4/5000 years ago which would be about the time the Bronze Age started here. The Celts spread throughout western Europe—including Britain, Ireland, France and Spain—via migration. The area was isolated enough that the blood types of Basques are quite different from other nearby Spaniards and French, even if the R1B1 DNA exists in them as it does throughout Western Europe, and it just happens that the Basques have high concentrations of that DNA as do the Irish, Welsh, and Cornish, though some isolated areas of Galicia in Spain and Northern Portugal have the same. Everyone wants to know where they came from. Hope this helps - good luck with your research into your family history! After the first fight south of Cornwall, … This interesting name, with variant forms, Duffie, MacDuffie, McFee, McPhee, D'Duffie and O'Duhig, is an Anglicization of the ancient Gaelic personal name "Mac Dhubhshith" a compound of elements, "mac" meaning "son of" plus "dubh", "black" and "sith", peace, hence "son of the black one of peace". Secondly, where did the term Black Irish come from? You could see them in northern Portugal as well, such as in Guimaraes, but less so in Oporto. Apparently their languages have been replaced on several occasions. Still wondering about my origins as I am intrigued about the Spanish possibilities! My son has light brown hair but has a red beard. it's a nice historical topic which you discuss in detail. This has always been true: Geoffrey Parker's new book examines ten cases, from the history of Europe in the 16th and 17th centuries, of defeat snatched from the jaws of victory. Marie McKeown (author) from Ireland on February 16, 2014: Thanks for sharing the link to that article - very interesting! BigBlue54 In an earlier post you mentioned the english. There was also the leinster Regt. There are old legends that tie into some of these findings ~ in particular that Scotia (Scotland) daughter of a Pharoah and Gaelos (Gaelic) son of a Greek King and their entourage moved through NW Spain (Basques) to Ireland about the time of Moses. Spanish Armada At least 5000 men perished off the Irish Coast In August of 1588 a fleet of 130 ships sailed from A Coruña with plans to invade England. Thanks! Fantastic hub, great, very interesting, thanks! All disciplines are represented; literary studies and history predominate. Not only the north of Spain was Celtic, but also the south, and all of Spain except for the Mediterranean coast zone that was the home of Iberian tribes. Harold was Harold Godwinson. The Franks penned the Bretons in with fortifications in depth; this is how it remained throughout Charlemagne's reign. The year is 1597. The book incorporates English, Irish, Belgian, Dutch, Spanish and French archival material, including a number of previously unexploited English sources such as Norreys's personal papers in the Bodleian Library. Marie McKeown (author) from Ireland on September 03, 2013: Ancestry and genetics is one of my many loves. By 1066, when Harold was appointed King of England and demoted many Bretons and Normans who had reach high station there, Count Eozen of Brittany and Duke William of Normandy had formed a military alliance. Did the Spanish Armada land in Ireland? I live in Northern Ireland and in this small country the differences between the Irish and the British can still seem very important. I was told that the Irish side of our family was Black Irish. Keltoi was the name given by the Ancient Greeks to a 'barbaric' (in their eyes) people who lived to the north of them in central Europe. So red-heads may well be descended from the earliest ancestors of the Irish and British. Thank you! The article kind of makes it seem that the Spanish who arrived to Ireland were not Celts, but they were. However, Aetius was afraid that with all the Huns dead, the Visigoths under Thorismund would become an overwhelming threat, so he disbanded the army and let Attila live to ravage northern Italy. These remains, found on Rathlin Island also shared a close genetic affinity with the Scottish, Welsh, and modern Irish, unlike the earlier farmer. Goringe Accountants from London, UK on September 22, 2014: Recently discovered my last name use to be O'xxxxxxx way back when. The ensuing English victory against this Spanish Armada became a pivotal moment in the rise of Protestant England as a global power. Genome sequencing performed on remains of early settlers in Ireland by researchers at Trinity University in Dublin and Queens University has revealed at least two waves of migration to the island in past millennia. When the Roman Empire fell, in the 400's, Nordic-type Germanic barbarians invaded the Iberian Peninsula as well, the Suebi and Visigoths in particular, though they didn't leave much of a genetic marker. Also, my mum has connected with some Irish "cousins" that my husband, daughter, and I will hopefully be able to meet with when we go to Ireland in 3 weeks! It's not known whether the King survived, but Arvandus was committed to stand trial for treason. So why the mixed style? Read more about National Geographic's 2013 'Genographic' project in the west of Ireland. Her mother's family were Ulster-Scots, I assume, from name and religion, and they were members of the mythical Black Irish tribe: they had black hair and eyes and olive complexions. Mum has just gotten her results, and because the DNA follows the maternal line, we have confirmation that we come from the Basques!! Think of France: Germanic-speaking Franks took up a pre-French Latin to speak as the Roman Empire was falling, eventually which developed as the French language. The battle itself was followed by 16 years of land and naval war between England and Spain in which the Spanish were mostly… A recent contributor to our forum wondered if there is any possibility that sailors from the doomed Armada settled in the West Coast and contributed part of the heritage which was subsequently spread throughout the entire country. The French court bought them off by making Rollo the official Count of Rouen and with promises of land in eastern Brittany that wasn't the Franks' to give. However, even today it is frequently surrounded by common myths and confusions that date back to Victorian Era days. Regarding the Black Irish, not many Spanish sailors and soldiers who got ship-wrecked during the Armada survived. It's thought that 5,000 Sarmatians settled in Britain in the Roman villas and outposts. 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